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The Lander Family?
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In
August 2007 I received a letter from Miss R.M. Jerram, after having
been given her details by Gloria Edwards, a Knight Family historian.
Miss Jerram is a great
granddaughter of Edward Knight (1806-1876), a son of Thomas Knight. She
was able to tell me a great deal about Edward's descendants. A lot of
this information I already had of course but she also had some
information about some descendants of Edward's sister, Henrietta
(1801-1890).
Henrietta had married James Mansfield in 1822 at
Gretna Green and I had for some time been in touch with Nan Spedding,
the wife of their great great grandson. Nan and I (mostly Nan) had put
together what we thought was a fairly complete listing of their
descendants.
Nan had also given me a copy of a letter that Henrietta
had written to her grandson Charles Spedding in which she had told him
of a family secret. This secret remained a secret as someone had
completely and purposefully blacked the passage out. A secret never to
be revealed. Perhaps.
Miss Jerram's letter contained some
information about the Lander family who she said were descendants of
Henrietta's. I doubted this and told her so. I had three daughters for
Henrietta and they were all accounted for.
Perhaps this Lander family
was attached to another of Miss Jerram's lines? Miss Jerram (90 years
old) was certainly not confused. She shot back a detailed, hand-written
letter to me of about 20 pages which included, amongst many other
subjects, the details of the Lander family.
From Miss Jerram's clues, I began the hunt for Mamie Lander who had
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Miss
Jerram's Clues
Part of Miss Jerram's letter appears below,
but summarised here are her pieces to the Lander jigsaw:
1) Mamie Lander inherited Thomas Knight's silver through Henrietta and
the Henrietta's daughter, Elleanora.
2)
Miss Jerram's father, Frederic Jerram, had stayed with Lander cousins
in Shropshire in 1881 (actually it was 1891). He remembers two boys and
two girls, who were more his age.
3)
Mabel Lander was Mamie's cousin. A letter from Mabel Lander, piano
teacher to The Queen and Princess Margaret, to Frederic Jerram, written
in about 1942 confirms that
--- Mabel was one of the girls at Sutton Farm and that Maud was the
other.
--- Arthur has sold the farm
--- Winifred is Mamie's neice, her brother Eaton's child. Eaton also
had a son who died after WW1 in a gliding accident.
4) Eaton and Mamie were orphaned cousins of the Shropshire Landers.
5) Eaton and Mamies' mother was a daughter of Henrietta Knight.
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Mabel
Lander Letter
(an easy letter to transcribe if someone wants to) |
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Looking For Mamie Lander
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I
quickly found the Shropshire Lander family in the 1891 Census. This is
the family that Miss Jerram's father remembers visiting.
Miss Jerram had said that Mamie was a cousin to this Shropshire family.
That census shows a neice, Mary Lander, born in Sydney, Australia in
about 1867.
A Mary Lander was indeed born at Sydney, NSW, Australia in
1865. Her parents were Thomas Eaton Lander and Isabella. I ordered a
copy
of her birth certificate immediately.
Dr Thomas Eaton Lander is a brother
of Richard Ridley Lander, the head of the Shropshire family.
This
confirms that Mary Lander (born 1865) is a cousin to the Shropshire
Lander family.
Is it possible that Mary is "Mamie"? Miss Jerram had told me
that
Mamie and her brother Eaton were orphans. Perhaps Mary was adopted by
her uncle Richard, who called her "Mamie" to avoid confusion with
another Mary, his
own daughter.
Miss Jerram had also told me that Mamie's mother was a
daughter of Henrietta Knight. The mother of the Mary Lander born in
Sydney was listed as Isabella.
Henrietta did have a daughter Isabella, but that Isabella was married
to Reverend Francis Spedding, Curate of Shifnal. |
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The Speddings
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Isabella Mansfield
married Reverend Francis Spedding in 1846.
They had six children and at the 1861
Census they are listed at Shifnal with sons: Frank and Charles, and
daughters: Marion and Isabella.
Two other children had died previously
in infancy.
Reverend Francis Spedding was the Curate of St Andrews, Shifnal. He
transferred to Donisthorpe in 1865. Shifnal would not have been a happy
place for him after the events of 1861.
He was living in Donisthorpe, Debyshire at the time of the
1871 Census, Isabella having
died in America (according to a letter from her sister Elleanora).
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Charles
Spedding Letter
In March 1880 Charles Spedding, aged 22, received a letter
from his grandmother, Henrietta Mansfield (Knight). The letter has a
family secret blacked out. What did his grandmother tell him? |
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Australian Time Line
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1861 April
Dr Thomas Eaton Lander and Isabella Spedding at home in Shifnal,
Shropshire with their respective spouses.
1861 May
Isabella is pregnant with Dr Lander's child
1862 February
A daughter Lisette Lander born at 211 Crown Street, Sydney on
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February 1862. Parents Eaton Lander, physician (born Shropshire,
England, age 43) and Isabella Mansfield, late Spedding, (born
Shropshire, England, age 30)
Parents married at Shropshire, England 1857
Previous issue: Marion 3 1/2, living, 1 boy living by former husband
Informant: Isabella Lander, mother, Crown Street
Present at birth: Dr Lander, Mrs Mean
Registered: 12 April 1862, Sydney
note: details altered November 1865 (see below)
see birth certificate
1862 October
Daughter Lisetta (sic) Lander dies at 211 Crown Street, Sydney on 4
October 1862 of diarrhoea.
She was aged 7 months. Parents Eton Lander (physician) and Isabella
Mansfield.
Informant: Bridget Bourke, servant, 211 Crown Street
Medical attendant: Dr Lander
Buried 6 October 1862 at Sydney
Witnesses: John Ikin, William Abbott
Registered: 6 October 1862
note: details altered November 1865 (see below)
see death certificate
1864 (approx)
Son Thomas Eaton Lander born at Sydney, NSW. (no record found)
1864 September
Daughter Isabella Mansfield Spedding dies at 211
Crown Street, Sydney on 3 September 1864 of scarlet fever. She was aged
3 years and 11 months. Parents Francis Spedding (Clergyman of Church of
England) and Isabella Mansfield.
Young Isabella had spent 9 months in NSW. (???)
Informant: Jane B..., servant, 211 Crown Street
Medical attendant: Dr E Lander
Buried 6 September at Camperdown Cemetery
Witnesses: C Lander, Henry Abbot
Registered: 4 September 1864 at Sydney
see death certificate
1865
Isabella claims to have married Thomas Eaton Lander at Liverpool. No
record found.
1865 August
A daughter, Mary Lander born at South Head Road, Sydney on 22 August
1865. Parents Thomas Eaton Lander, physician (born at Shiffnal,
England, age 45) and Isabella Mansfield (born Cumberland, England, age
34)
Parents married at Liverpool 1865
Previous issue: nil
Informant: Thomas Eaton Lander, father, South Head Road
Present at birth: Dr Lander, Jane Parry
Registered: 6 August 1865, Sydney. (Registration date is correct, error
in birth date)
see birth certificate
1865 November
Birth details for Lisette (February 1862) were
altered. Details of parents marriage was omitted and "illegitimate"
inserted. Lisette's name changed to Mansfield. Signed by Isabella
Mansfield, now Lander 27 November 1865.
Death details for Lisetta (October 1862) were altered. Father's name
was omitted and name of Lisetta Lander changed to Lisetta Mansfield.
Signed by Isabella Mansfield, now Lander 27 November 1865.
1869 Q4
Dr Thomas Eaton Lander died at Ludlow, Shropshire in Q4 1869, aged 49.
1871 Census England
Young Thomas staying with a Lander relative at Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Young Mary not found
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Family Secret Revealed
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In a nutshell, Isabella Spedding deserted her
family in 1861-1862 and ran off to Australia
with the local GP, Dr Thomas Eaton Lander.
She definitely took her youngest child, Isabella with her, but probably
left the other
three children behind, including young Charles, aged 4. |
Thomas and Mary (Mamie)
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Mary "Mamie" Lander was indeed raised by her uncle, Richard Ridley
Lander in Shropshire. She died during WW2 in London.
Her brother, Thomas Eaton Lander, known as Eaton, can be seen in the
1901 Scottish
census living with his wife Eliza and children: Thomas E Lander born in
1894 in India, and daughter Winifred E M Landerborn at Kippin,
Stirlingshire, Scotland in 1896.
Winifred married Q1 1926 at Bedford, Bedfordshire, England and became
Winifred Harris. |
Questions
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What
happened to Dr Thomas Eaton Lander's wife, Elizabeth Sarah Harriet
Lander (nee Eyke)? I cannot find her in the 1871 Census. Was she dead?
When?
Where was Mamie in the 1871 Census?
Where and when did Isabella Spedding die?
What happened to Mamie's daughter, Winifred? She married ??? Harris at
Bedford in Q1 1926.
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Spedding and Lander Family Census 1861
A storm was brewing - here are the participants
| 1861 Census (night of 7 April) |
| Drayton
Lodge, Shifnal , Shropshire |
| Francis Spedding |
head |
married |
42 |
farmer |
Gilling, Yorkshire |
| Isabella Spedding |
wife |
married |
33 |
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Papcastle, Cumberland |
| Frank S Spedding |
son |
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12 |
scholar |
Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Marion Spedding |
daughter |
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4 |
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Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Charles Spedding |
son |
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3 |
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Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Isabella Spedding |
daughter |
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6 months |
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Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Innage,
Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Thomas E Lander |
head |
married |
41 |
General Practitioner |
Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Elizabeth S H Lander |
wife |
married |
39 |
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Stanton, Shropshire |
| Ann Eyke |
wife's aunt |
unmarried |
68 |
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Stanton, Shropshire |
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Relevant
Census 1871-1901
| 1871 Census |
| The
Hene Farm, St Andrew, Shifnal , Shropshire |
| Richard R Lander |
head |
married |
41 |
farmer |
Shifnal, Salop |
| Matilda A Lander |
wife |
married |
40 |
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Edgbaston,
Warwickshire |
| Mary M Lander |
daughter |
single |
12 |
scholar |
Shifnal Evelitte,
Shropshire |
| Richard M Lander |
son |
single |
7 |
scholar |
Shifnal Evelitte,
Shropshire |
| Kate Lander |
daughter |
single |
1 |
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Shifnal The Hene,
Shropshire |
| Edith Lander |
daughter |
single |
0 |
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Shifnal The Hene,
Shropshire |
| Rusholme,
Lancashire |
| Mary Ann Lander |
head |
unmarried |
77 |
annuitant |
Birmingham,
Warwickshire |
| Thomas E Lander |
great nephew |
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7 |
scholar |
Sydney, Australia |
| New
Street, Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Ann Eyke |
boarder |
unmarried |
79 |
annuitant |
Stanton, Shropshire |
| Parsonage
House, Donisthorpe, Leicestershire |
| Francis Spedding |
head |
widower |
52 |
Vicar of Donisthorpe |
Gilling, Yorkshire |
| Isabella Spedding |
sister |
unmarried |
42 |
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Gilling, Yorkshire |
| Latin
Grammar School, Appleby, Derbyshire |
| Charles Spedding |
boarder |
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13 |
scholar |
Shifnal, Shropshire |
| Stanton
House, Stoney Stanton, Leicestershire |
| Marian C Spedding |
boarder |
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14 |
scholar |
Shifnal, Shropshire |
| 1881 Census |
| Farm, Shifnal , Shropshire |
| Richard R Lander |
head |
married |
51 |
late farmer |
Shifnal, Salop |
| Ada M Lander |
wife |
married |
39 |
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Edgbaston,
Warwickshire |
| Richard M G |
son |
single |
17 |
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Evelith Shifnal,
Shropshire, England |
| St Johns College, Hurstpierpoint, Sussex |
| Thomas E Lander |
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17 |
scholar |
Sydney, Australia |
| Broomfield Hall, Franche Road, Kidderminster,
Worcestershire |
| Mary Lander |
boarder |
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15 |
scholar |
Sydney, Australia |
| Kate Lander |
boarder |
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11 |
scholar |
Shifnal, Shropshire,
England |
| Edith Lander |
boarder |
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10 |
scholar |
Shifnal, Shropshire,
England |
| 1891 Census |
| Sutton
Hill, Albrighton, St Mary, Shropshire |
| Richard Lander |
head |
widower |
61 |
farmer |
Shifnal, Salop |
| Richard M G Lander |
son |
single |
27 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Mary Lander |
niece |
single |
24 |
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Sydney, Australia |
| Kate Lander |
daughter |
single |
21 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Edith Lander |
daughter |
single |
20 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Ada K Lander |
daughter |
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16 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Ernest O Lander |
son |
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15 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Arthur E Lander |
son |
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14 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Maud E Lander |
daughter |
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11 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Mabel I Lander |
daughter |
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8 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| 1901 Census |
| Sutton
Hill, Sutton Maddock, Shropshire |
| Richard R Lander |
head |
widower |
71 |
agricultural farmer |
Shifnal, Salop |
| Richard M G Lander |
son |
single |
37 |
agricultural farmer |
Shifnal, Salop |
| Kate Lander |
daughter |
single |
31 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Edith Lander |
daughter |
single |
30 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Maud E Lander |
daughter |
single |
21 |
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Shifnal, Salop |
| Mary Lander |
daughter |
single |
33 |
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Sydney, Australia |
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The Lander Family and Thomas
Knight's Silver
from Miss Jerram
August 2007
During the last war my father inherited "out of the blue", the Knight
silver collection.
I have a list from the warehouse from which it was delivered, and a
note from my Mother saying it was the legacy from Mamie Lander.
(Sadly the silver was later sold by my brother, understandably, as it
would never have been safe to leave out, and we live in a different way
to the Victorians!)
I examined everything very carefully, checking on dates, and briefly:
- the tea sets ("K" initials) were c.1825 (or possibly 1785)
- 4 boat shaped salts (lovely) 1770
- various cutlery 1788/1803, mostly shell pattern (assorted) and most
with the Knight crest and/or "TK"
- There were also 2 plain spoons initialled "HM" and 3 spoons and forks
initialled "EB".
I think we can take it for granted that the silver belonged to our
Thomas and Isabella and were presumably inherited by Henrietta
Mansfield and then to Eleanora Burr. (I don't know why they had their
own initials on them. Perhaps they went to boarding school? (We had to
bring our own cutlery at school!)
After this, it is a mystery. The following may help-
I will send a copy of Mabel Lander's letter, the only correspondence I
have regarding this.
She refers to an item in my father's Reminiscences of which he
presumably reminded her. He wrote:
"When I was about
8, I went to
stay with cousins, the Landers, who had a farm in Shropshire. The two
boys were pupils of my father's, and there were two girls more my age.
This was the year of the Great Blizard when the River Severn was
frozen, 1881"
The letter from Mabel Lander says "Yes, I was one of the two
sisters, Maud being the other one with whom you played at Sutton Hill".
She mentions "Arthur" who has now sold the farm. Her brother?
"Winifred is Mamie's neice, her brother Eaton's child."
Mamie seemed to be living in London or nearby.
Just found a note saying Mamie was the neice of Eleanora Burr ("a
cousin of Florence Jerram") who lived in Brighton
with her
cats (no, I think it was Eleanora who lived there with the
cats.
But this could solve part of the problem.
I have a feeling that Mamie and Eaton were orphans, brought up by
Eleanora??? but not sure what relation to Mabel.
Just found another reference
| Henrietta
Knight = Mansfield |
| Henrietta |
Eleanora = Burr |
another
daughter = Lander |
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Eaton |
Mamie |
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Winifred |
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Eaton and Mamie were orphaned cousins of the Shropshire Landers who
were Ernest, Arthur, Maud, Mabel. (probably, not sure!)
Included with the silver was the cover of Thomas Knight's family bible.
I can't recall who would now have this. I hope it is in safe hands, but
I did copy the names and later sent to Gloria (who would have passed
them to you.
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Richard
Ridley Lander
Richard Ridley Lander
Christened 26 January 1830 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England (parents
Thomas Eaton Lander and Ann Ridley)
Died Q1 1909 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Married (1) Matilda
Ann Goodall, Q3 1856 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Born 1830 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Died Q3 1871 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Children: Mary (1859), Richard (1863), Kate (1870), Edith (1871)
Married (2) Ada
Margaret Osborne, Q2 1873 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Born Q3 1841 at Kings Norton
Died Q3 1886 at Shifnal, Shropshire, England
Children: Ada (1874), Ernest (1875), Arthur (1876), Maud (1879), Mabel
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